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Viewing cable 09ANKARA287, CODEL DURBIN: TALKING CYPRUS -- AND HALKI -- WITH
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09ANKARA287 | 2009-02-23 17:18 | 2011-05-24 08:00 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Ankara |
Appears in these articles: www.tanea.gr |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 ANKARA 000287
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DEPT. FOR EUR/SE; H PLEASE PASS TO SENATOR DURBIN
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/24/2019
TAGS: PREL OVIP PGOV CY GR TU
SUBJECT: CODEL DURBIN: TALKING CYPRUS -- AND HALKI -- WITH
THE TURKS
REF: ISTANBUL 73
Classified By: CDA Doug Silliman for reasons 1.4(b,d)
¶1. (C) SUMMARY: CODEL Durbin, led by Assistant Majority
Leader Senator Richard Durbin, met with senior GOT officials
February 19 on bilateral relations, Cyprus, and efforts by
the Greek Orthodox Church to reopen Halki Theological
Seminary for training of priests. During the meetings,
Senator Durbin emphasized the importance with which USG
officials, both in the executive and legislative branches,
view the US-Turkey strategic relationship. He emphasized
that following meetings in Cyprus, he believes 2009 offers a
historic opportunity to achieve a comprehensive settlement
and end over 40 years of
conflict on the island. GOT officials expressed hope that
negotiations between Cypriot leaders Christofias and Talat
will soon become more intense and urged the US to consider
naming a special envoy, who can urge both sides (but
especially the Greek Cypriots) to move forward more
expeditiously. A group of Turkish opinion makers sounded a
pessimistic note on Cyprus negotiations, claiming ROC
President Christofias and the Greek Cypriots have no
motivation to reach a settlement and will seek to draw out
negotiations well into 2010. All GOT interlocutors
emphasized the extreme damage to Turkey-US relations that
would ensue should an Armenian Genocide Resolution pass in
the US House of Representatives or US Senate, or should
President Obama characterize the tragic events of 1915 as
"genocide" in his statement marking April 24 as Armenian
Remembrance Day. END SUMMARY
President Gul
-------------
¶2. (C) Senator Durbin emphasized to President Gul that the
U.S. values Turkey,s friendship and loyalty and expressed
appreciation for Turkish support through its positive
contributions to NATO, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and on
counterterrorism. He also underscored continued strong US
support for Turkey's EU accession aspirations. Explaining
his appreciation for the complicated nature of Cyprus
reunification talks, Durbin expressed hope that a final
solution could be reached this year that would bring to an
end the island's long, sad, bloody history. He also
expressed admiration for T/C "President" Talat, G/C President
Christofias, and their lead negotiators, Nami and Iacovou,
saying that it required a great deal of political courage to
resume talks last year, and expressed hope that Turkey could
do all it can to encourage successful negotiations, to
include possible "symbolic" steps.
¶3. (C) President Gul responded that Turkey has given its full
support to Talat. Turkey is sincere in its hopes for a real
solution and full-fledged cooperation on the island.
However, what is required is a solution that will be viable
and lasting. Gul noted the need to recognize that there are
two different nations with two different peoples existing on
the island. There should first be two constituent states
with a degree of autonomy, states that would later, gradually
find ways increasingly to cooperate and would become one
nation out of functional necessity; economic realities will
help facilitate true reunification. Returning to a situation
in which one community ruled the island with certain
specified "minority rights" guaranteed to the other was not,
in his view, a realistic approach. The EU,s decision to
allow a divided Cyprus into the EU had only further
exacerbated a difficult situation.
¶4. (C) Durbin encouraged Turkey to take bold steps for peace,
noting that if Turkey makes a gesture and the Greek Cypriots
do not reciprocate, the world will know, and he will
challenge the ROC to answer in kind. He also commented that
he was encouraged by his visit and Turkey,s efforts to
resolve its differences with neighbors Cyprus and Armenia.
Gul responded that Turkey is "problem-solving" and recognizes
the need to have good relations with all its neighbors. He
referred to GOT tolerance of more than 70,000 illegal
Armenian workers in Turkey, encouragement of direct flights
between Istanbul and Yerevan, bilateral cultural exchange
programs, and an invitation to Armenia to join the Black Sea
Economic Cooperation organization and GOT accreditation of
the GOAM's Ambassador to its secretariat in Istanbul as
ANKARA 00000287 002 OF 003
evidence of GOT seriousness. "I trust President Sargsian and
believe he trusts me. Let's set aside issues related to a
resolution in the US Congress. We seek good relations with
Armenia and will continue to work toward that." However, Gul
warned that passage of a congressional resolution would make
it impossible to continue the initiative because the
atmosphere would become too poisonous.
¶5. (C) Senator Durbin also raised the long-standing problems
of the Greek Orthodox Church and asked if there is any way
the GOT could find a way to allow the Halki Seminary to
function as intended to train new priests in the Orthodox
faith. Gul responded that GOT officials are sympathetic to
the needs of the Church in Turkey, calling the Patriarch and
church members "our citizens, who provide us with richness of
diversity." He believes a way can be found to solve the
problem, but it has legal ramifications that impact how all
institutions of religious teaching are treated.
Deputy Prime Minister Cicek
---------------------------
¶6. (C) Deputy Prime Minister Cicek said he was well aware of
the long-term importance of US-Turkey ties; he was the only
one still in politics who had worked with former Turkish
President Ozal. Turkey today is working with the U.S.
constructively in a wide region. On Cyprus, Cicek reiterated
that Turkey supports the goal of a settlement, but that any
solution needs to be fair and lasting. The "TRNC" and
"President" Talat are making great efforts to resolve
differences, but unilateral efforts in this regard will not
be enough. He added that one needs to understand the "facts
of the island": that there are two equal communities; the
Turkish Cypriots "are not a minority." He pointed to deals
the Greek Cypriots have signed to purchase arms worth $200
million from France and Russia. Such deals make it difficult
to believe they're seeking a long-term peaceful settlement.
¶7. (C) Senator Durbin pressed Cicek for Turkey to show its
support for peace and stability on Cyprus by symbolic
gestures such as permitting overflights of Greek Cypriot
civilian aircraft on the Turkish Cypriot side, and
establishing an international group to study the future of
Varosha. Cicek replied that Ankara believes there is room
for openings on both sides, but insisted that the Turkish
Cypriots already have taken steps "such as approving the
Annan Plan" and that it is time for the Greek Cypriots to
reciprocate. Still, if the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots
is lifted, the Turkish side would be ready to open the
airport (NOTE: This seems to refer to Nicosia Airport, closed
since 1974. END NOTE) Senator Durbin underscored that if
Ankara were to take a step, he would ask the Greek Cypriots
to do the same. He noted that he hopes that in the future
both sides do not look back and say that an historic
opportunity had been missed.
¶8. (C) Durbin also appealed to Cicek to "start a dialogue"
with Greece on reopening Halki Seminary. Cicek responded
that there are no specific regulations against Halki but that
a 1974 general law applies to all theological faculties and
stipulates that they must be connected to state universities.
The law is aimed primarily at regulating private Islamic
schools. Otherwise, "Turkey would turn into Pakistan." He
noted GOT officials have been working on finding a solution
on Halki and sympathized with the Church's wish to train
priests. The Halki question is not political, it is
judicial. Turkey does not want to open itself to radicalism.
At the same time, Cicek asked rhetorically if Greece should
not pay attention to the ethnic Turks living in Thrace, whose
rights are "routinely violated."
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¶9. (C) MFA Deputy Under Secretary Haydar Berk and DDG for
Northeast Mediterranean Kerim Uras offered CODEL Durbin a
lengthy briefing on Turkey's perspective of the historical
basis of negotiations on the Cyprus issue and said Turkey,s
support for a Cyprus settlement envisions a united island
that would have a "significant, positive" impact on the
eastern Mediterranean. However, Ankara remains concerned
about the current "unfriendly posture" of the Greek Cypriots.
Senator Durbin noted that if Talat and Christofias could be
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given a helping hand, they could succeed. MFA U/S Ertugrul
Apakan emphasized at a follow-on lunch that the GOT seeks a
special envoy on Cyprus from the US. Not someone so senior
that he or she overshadows UN Special Rep. Downer, but
someone who can ensure the US is engaged. The US represents
fairness, justice, and balance on the Cyprus issue, according
to Apakan. "We need your involvement." Apakan also
underscored the hands-off approach the GOT is taking on
Cyprus negotiations, saying, "Talat does not need us to
negotiate for him." He noted that DDG Uras goes to the
island once every couple weeks to get updates on the
negotiations, but senior officials travel only on a quarterly
basis to the island and, contrary to claims by Greek Cypriots
that he is pulling Talat's strings from Ankara, Apakan
claimed he had not spoken to Talat on the phone "in months."
The problem according to Apakan, is that the Greek Cypriots
"are not doing the intellectual work necessary to find a
settlement, because they don't want a federation, they don't
like power-sharing, and they don't like the idea of a 'new
Cyprus.'"
¶10. (C) Durbin asked if it would be possible for Greece and
Turkey to open a conversation on Turkish schools in Greece
and the Halki Seminary in Istanbul. Berk insisted that
Ankara had asked for such a dialogue two years ago, but had
received no reply from the GOG. He said Turkey has signed 33
agreements with Greece, some with the assistance of the USG,
such as the 1997 Madrid Agreement about the Aegean. The
level of Greece-Turkey trade now stands at 3 billion Euros.
Greek investment in Turkey exceeds 5 billion Euros. It is an
ongoing process. Berk also noted that the two countries
engage in a mechanism called the Exploratory Talks regarding
the Aegean. Senator Durbin said the visit to Turkey by Greek
PM Karamanlis, the first such visit in 49 years, had not
seemed to be recognized by Ankara as a courageous and
valuable gesture. Berk seemed taken aback and replied that
the Turkish Prime Minister himself had
visited Greece "several times," and it was good that
Karamanlis had finally been able to reciprocate. He said
both Athens and Ankara "have complaints" but that Ankara is
trying to take a positive approach. He suggested that the
Greek Government has created a negative public opinion toward
Turkey, and "now they say that public opinion ties their
hands."
¶11. (C) Durbin promised to reach out to FM Bakoyannis on the
issue, which he did in a February 20 phone call following his
meeting in Istanbul with the Ecumenical Patriarch (ref).
Conveying Bakoyannis' expressed willingness to discuss the
issue and the Patriarch's expressed hope that GOT officials
would engage him on concerns of the Church, Durbin spoke with
Dep U/S Berk by phone prior to his return to the US February
¶20. Berk said he was encouraged by the responses and that he
would be happy to meet with the Patriarch personally. They
agreed to keep this initiative quiet for the time being.
CODEL Durbin did not have an opportunity to clear on this
message.
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