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Viewing cable 09QUITO570, FM FALCONI WITH AMBASSADOR ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE,
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09QUITO570 | 2009-07-09 23:35 | 2011-04-08 07:30 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Quito |
Appears in these articles: http://www.eluniverso.com/2011/04/08/1/1355/cable-215977.html |
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C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000570
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/09/2019
TAGS: PREL SNAR EAID SENV MARR CVIS EC
SUBJECT: FM FALCONI WITH AMBASSADOR ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE,
GAS-AND-GO
REF: A. STATE 62142
¶B. STATE 47202
¶C. QUITO 306
Classified By: Ambassador Heather Hodges for Reasons 1.4
(b, d)
¶1. (C) Summary: GOE officials laid out their thinking on
the Bilateral Dialogue, including a new, so far poorly
defined, security pillar, in a July 8 meeting with the
Ambassador. The Ambassador emphasized the USG desire to move
forward as soon as possible. She raised U.S. interest in a
gas-and-go arrangement to allow U.S. counter-narcotics
flights out of Ecuadorian coastal airports, a subject with
which the GOE officials appeared unfamiliar. Other subjects
included the draft agreements for USG support to specialized
police units, the delays in discussing the annual USAID
agreement, tax exemptions for FOL vehicles, and visas for
recipients of GOE medical assistance. End summary.
¶2. (U) Meeting participants included Foreign Minister Fander
Falconi, Coordinating Minister for Internal and External
Security Miguel Carvajal, MFA Vice Minister for Foreign Trade
and Integration Ramon Espinel, Government and Police Ministry
Under Secretary Franco Sanchez, MFA Bilateral Affairs Under
Secretary Jorge Orbe, and MFA North America Director General
Ambassador Juan Salazar. PolCouns accompanied the Ambassador.
¶3. (C) Falconi described his and Minister Carvajal's June
12 meeting with the Secretary as fruitful and constructive.
He highlighted the main topics of discussion, including a
letter he had given to the Secretary outlying a proposal for
a trade agreement for development. He said immigration issues
had also been discussed. Falconi mentioned that the two sides
seemed to share the same vision in regard to using the
Bilateral Dialogue as a venue to address issues. He noted
that his trade proposal had been favorably received and that
their Ambassador in Washington had sent subsequent reports of
positive reactions to their proposal. Falconi also noted
that during the trip he had taken Minister Carvajal to drive
by Bethesda/Chevy Case High School, which he attended for
three years of high school.
NEXT STEPS ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE
¶4. (C) The Ambassador emphasized that the USG wants to move
forward on the Bilateral Dialogue and its working groups
without losing time. (Note: Falconi did not make himself
available to see the Ambassador on this subject until some
time after the embassy requested the meeting. End note.)
The Ambassador pointed out that officials from the Andean
Affairs and Economic Policy and Summit Coordination offices
planned to visit Quito this month to prepare for the
Bilateral Dialogue. She said the USG also planned to send
official(s) for further discussions in August.
¶5. (C) Falconi told the Ambassador that the GOE had held an
internal meeting in preparation for the Bilateral Dialogue
earlier that day. Under Secretary Orbe said the GOE would
like to have four working groups -- security, trade and
investment, cooperation and technical assistance, and "human
mobility" (formerly called migration affairs) ) to discuss
agenda items and how the two sides would move forward on
"negotiations" (sic). Orbe suggested that the Bilateral
Dialogue plenary meeting be held in mid-September.
¶6. (C) The Ambassador welcomed Orbe's suggestions. She
explained that Embassy turnover and gaps would complicate the
Embassy's participation in working groups in some areas,
saying an October plenary meeting would be more realistic for
the USG. The Ambassador asked that the MFA provide proposed
dates in late July for the visit of Washington officials.
GOE PROPOSES NEW SECURITY PILLAR FOR DIALOGUE
¶7. (C) The Ambassador asked for more information on the
security pillar, which would replace the former pillar on
promotion of human development and reduction of poverty.
Minister Carvajal replied that the GOE concept of security
was a broad one, going beyond the traditional subjects. He
listed narcotics trafficking, domestic and international
criminal bands, money laundering, kidnapping, and UNASUR's
Defense Ministers Council. He also included trafficking in
persons (because it exposed Ecuadorians to threats), the
regional situation (focused on guaranteeing democracy), and
climate change in the Andean region (because droughts and
floods were threats).
¶8. (C) The Ambassador requested a written explanation of GOE
thinking on this pillar, noting that the USG planned an
interagency meeting on the Bilateral Dialogue the following
week in Washington and that we needed to understand what the
GOE had in mind so that the officials who planned to visit
Quito could receive appropriate instructions from other
offices and agencies. Carvajal agreed to try to provide
something in writing.
GAS-AND-GO PROPOSAL
¶9. (C) The Ambassador raised USG interest in a gas-and-go
agreement, stressing that President Rafael Correa had
responded favorably when she brought up the subject with him
in January. She said that she had met once with then MFA
Under Secretary for Sovereignty Affairs Jaime Barberis on the
subject, but that it had been on hold since February (when
two Embassy officials were expelled). The Ambassador asked
Falconi to authorize the new Under Secretary of Sovereignty
Affairs, Claudia Donoso, to resume these discussions with us.
¶10. (C) Surprisingly, Falconi and other GOE officials in the
meeting appeared not to be familiar with gas-and-go. The
Ambassador explained the concept and cited other countries
where we had similar agreements. Of those in the meeting,
Minister Carvajal appeared the most skeptical about the idea,
asking whether this meant U.S. intelligence officers would be
on the flights and whether the flights would be over land as
well as water. The Ambassador responded that the crew would
not normally be intelligence officers and that the area to be
covered was the eastern Pacific ocean, not Ecuadorian
territory. She noted that FOL flights had never flown over
Ecuador. Carvajal promised to raise the issue with President
Correa. The Ambassador said she would provide information in
writing on gas-and-go this week. (Embassy is providing the
nonpaper in Ref B.)
AGREEMENTS ON VETTED UNITS
¶11. (C) Ministry of Government Under Secretary Sanchez
raised the agreements under discussion for resuming or
continuing USG support for specialized police units. He
expressed interest in concluding the agreements as soon as
possible so that funds would be available in the new USG
fiscal year starting in October. The Ambassador explained
that the Embassy had completed translations of the draft
agreements and that in our view there were only a few points
that needed further discussion. She mentioned handling of
equipment the USG provided if the agreement were terminated,
protection of information in case of auditing, and slight
revisions to provisions governing polygraphing.
USAID PROPOSED AGREEMENT AND OTHER ISSUES
¶12. (C) The Ambassador flagged the problems that the
Embassy's USAID mission had encountered with the GOE's Agency
for International Cooperation (AGECI). USAID provided AGECI
on May 5 a draft amendment to its 2007 agreement, which would
allow expenditure of FY2009 funds during FY2010. She
explained that USAID had sought numerous times to communicate
with the AGECI director to discuss the agreement, but without
success. PolCouns pointed out that USAID sought not to
dictate the text without changes, but rather to begin a
dialogue on the subject. (AGECI is part of the GOE's
National Planning Secretariat; a similar agency used to be
within the MFA.)
¶13. (C) GOE interlocutors in the meeting appeared genuinely
distressed at the Ambassador's report. Falconi assured her
that the MFA would speak to the AGECI director immediately to
facilitate a response. The Ambassador warned that if the
USAID funds were not obligated via such an amendment,
Washington might remove the funds and use them elsewhere.
She noted that USAID used to obligate funds directly through
agreements with contractors, but under the Correa
administration had worked via agreement with the GOE.
Falconi appeared to appreciate the coordination.
¶14. (C) At the close of the meeting, Director General
Salazar touched briefly on two other topics. The first was
an agreement between the two countries on visa requests by
individuals whose medical care in the U.S. would be funded by
the GOE. (The Ambassador made clear to Salazar on the way
out that the U.S. could not guarantee visa issuance, but
could take into account the GOE commitment to pay medical
costs.) The second was the status of Embassy and MFA efforts
to obtain tax exemptions for vehicles the Forward Operating
Location in Manta planned to donate to local charities and
GOE entities. The Ambassador described this as 95 percent
resolved.
COMMENT
¶15. (C) Some of the issues that Carvajal proposed for
consideration under the Bilateral Dialogue's new security
pillar already figured on the agenda under the previous four
pillars, but several other issues did not. Once we get a
better description of the new topics that Carvajal suggested
under the security pillar, we will have a better idea of
whether they would be best managed as part of the Bilateral
Dialogue or through other channels. The GOE officials' lack
of knowledge about the gas-and-go proposal appeared to be
genuine, but was startling. (Note: Correa even mentioned his
commitment to the Ambassador on television during his Feb 7
outburst against our ICE employee whom he was expelling.)
This illustrates once again Correa's tendency to make
decisions without consultation with staff and the poor
communication within the government and even ministries. It
also demonstrates the GOE's limited ability to track USG
priority issues, let alone move the ball forward.
HODGES
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