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Viewing cable 05BOGOTA1735, U/S GROSSMAN AND SENATOR PARDO DISCUSS LEGAL
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05BOGOTA1735 | 2005-02-23 19:07 | 2011-04-29 00:12 | CONFIDENTIAL | Embassy Bogota |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
id: 27541
date: 2/23/2005 19:53
refid: 05BOGOTA1735
origin: Embassy Bogota
classification: CONFIDENTIAL
destination: 05BOGOTA1660
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 BOGOTA 001735
SIPDIS
SOUTHCOM FOR POLAD
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/23/2015
TAGS: PGOV KJUS PTER CO
SUBJECT: U/S GROSSMAN AND SENATOR PARDO DISCUSS LEGAL
FRAMEWORK FOR PARAMILITARY DEMOBILIZATION
REF: BOGOTA 1660
Classified By: Ambassador William B. Wood, Reasons: 1.4 B & D.
¶1. (C) Summary: On February 14, visiting U/S Grossman and
Ambassador discussed the status of draft demobilization
legislation with Senator Rafael Pardo. U/S Grossman
expressed the U.S. desire that any legislation be
transparent, workable, and put the paramilitaries out of
business. Pardo worried about the proliferation of
legislative proposals in the last week and the lack of
coordination on the part of senior GOC officials. Ambassador
noted that President Uribe had committed to rally GOC
officials around the proposal introduced February 9 by
Interior and Justice Minister Sabas Pretelt. End Summary.
¶2. (C) U/S Grossman noted that given the importance the USG
places on paramilitary (AUC) demobilization, the U.S. is
following debate on the draft demobilization bills closely.
He stated that demobilization is a key part of the peace
process, and congratulated Colombia for having demobilized
roughly 5000 AUC members. While the specifics of the
legislation are for Colombians to decide, he stressed that we
want to see a law that is transparent, strong on punishment,
and that puts the AUC out of business. U/S Grossman urged
Pardo to view demobilization legislation as a likely model
with which to put the ELN and FARC out of business as well.
¶3. (C) Ambassador told Pardo that in U/S Grossman's meeting
with President Uribe earlier on February 14 (septel), both
Uribe and Legal Advisor Camilo Ospina indicated that the GOC
desired to be associated with only one bill (in spite of
widespread media speculation that senior GOC officials were
divided on the issue). Ambassador noted that Uribe said the
GOC preferred the bill introduced by Interior and Justice
Minister Sabas Pretelt on February 9. Ambassador reviewed
the points on which the USG has insisted in private
conversations with GOC officials and members of Congress:
--Disclosure of past criminal or terrorist activities, a key
step toward national reconciliation;
--Punishment for all those responsible for serious crimes;
--Dismantlement of these narco-terrorist organizations
through seizure of property, and individual and collective
reparations;
--Transparency; and
--Government monitoring and control to ensure that those
demobilized do not return to crime.
Ambassador also emphasized that the law should contain
nothing that could prejudice Colombia's excellent cooperation
on extraditions.
¶4. (C) Turning to the specifics of the bills formally
introduced to the Congress, Pardo noted that GOC negotiators
took 80 percent of his draft and incorporated it in theirs.
Pardo stressed that his group's version is the strongest in
terms of confession of crimes. Pardo also noted the
importance of dismantling the AUC's organization, business,
and drug routes; and not just taking away their weapons.
Turning to the bill introduced by Rep. Armando Benedetti on
February 11, which he described as the draft the GOC "really
wanted," Pardo rejected it out of hand, lamenting its lack of
reference to both confession and reparations, and the fact
that it did not exclude members of drug cartels. Pardo noted
that the AUC's web page had "welcomed" the Benedetti version.
¶5. (C) U/S Grossman asked Pardo how he expected the
deliberations in the Congress to proceed. Pardo responded
that the GOC should announce it has agreed on one position
and that he supposed it would be the draft that Sabas Pretelt
introduced on February 9. However, the remained skeptical
that the GOC would "fight hard for it." Ambassador commented
that the GOC bill appeared to be the compromise bill, in the
middle position between the Pardo group draft and the latest
entry from Rep. Benedetti.
¶6. (C) In terms of support for the different bills, Pardo
stated that his bill counts on 8-9 votes in the 18-member
Senate First Committee, with the Sabas Pretelt version
counting on 8-9 as well. In terms of the Full Senate, Pardo
admitted his group's bill only counts on approximately 35
votes (of 102 total). Regarding the House, he said that his
group's version has 12-14 votes in the 35-member First
Committee and is far from a majority in the full Chamber.
Pardo felt the Benedetti bill had strong support in the
House. Given the flourish of bill-drafting activity in the
last 10 days, Pardo worried in the end that a "child of
Frankenstein" hodge-podge bill would emerge.
¶7. (C) In response to a question from U/S Grossman about
merging his bill with the Pretelt bill, Pardo expressed
pessimism. He said that perhaps prior to the strong
pronouncements by VP Santos and Peace Commissioner Restrepo
against the Pardo group version such a possibility had
existed, but not now.
DRUCKER
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